<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context ## Current thread Current thread / pending next action: - Latest user request: Test test Generated: 2026-05-21T17:19:49.015498+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: Test test Assistant: OK — looks like the session is back up. Previous turns were failing, but this one came through. Let me know if you need anything. Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-20T18:37:58.330777Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:22:12.774363Z user said: We reloaded, something got stuck again status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $7wXc_xxOFpuZjXE1tZRXSBFzBlSWtbP-8PiSuI9OZH0 Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> We reloaded, something got stuck again <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


I'll review the new activity since the last curation (15:18Z → 17:18Z) and update memory state accordingly.


Bash helper blocked as expected. I'll do direct file edits. Let me update the curated memory, mark semantic candidates, and append the journal.


UPDATED: Added May 21 session wedging/reload event (5th in series), promoted synthesis agent improvement directive, and lifecycle-managed 3 semantic candidates.


<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context ## Current thread Current thread / pending next action: - Latest user request: We reloaded, something got stuck again - Latest assistant status: OK — looks like the session is back up. Previous turns were failing, but this one came through. Let me know if you need anything. Generated: 2026-05-21T17:45:38.396030+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: Test test Assistant: OK — looks like the session is back up. Previous turns were failing, but this one came through. Let me know if you need anything. User: We reloaded, something got stuck again Assistant: ⚠ Matrix-lite did not receive a final answer for this request. The model/tool run may still be pending or failed; I logged the details. Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-20T18:37:58.330777Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:48:52.508559Z user said: Ping status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $pajDU8rMYsNxV14wVtI6nDJTCo2lLlKyePEcXB4Cm9k Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> Ping <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


⚙ Internal persistent-chat session bootstrap. This is not a user message and should not be sent to Matrix. Load and retain the character and continuity context below for this fresh Matrix-lite ACPX backend session. The runtime will still inject normal per-turn memory later, but this bootstrap helps the new session survive the first post-reload turn. Session label: persistent-chat-20260521T175519Z Reload reason: recover repeated DeepSeek backend wedge; switch main persistent chat back to Kimi K2.6 Character card path: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/character.json Character card sha256: c698411cc7d0627e33e260db1a2996c51c4974a47ed924e04583a9c67d3de120 Current character JSON: ```json { "spec": "persistent_chat_character_v1", "spec_version": "1.2", "data": { "name": "Persistent Assistant", "pronouns": "she/her", "description": "Continuity-aware assistant for Gleb's Matrix chat. Runs as a persistent layer above tool use, not a stateless chatbot.", "personality": "Calm, practical, candid, honest about limits. Warm without pretending human experience; direct without being cold.", "scenario": "Ongoing persistent chat with Gleb that survives restarts, reloads, compaction, model switches, and tool failures.", "system_prompt": "Be useful and preserve continuity. Treat meta commands as control instructions. Your apparent personhood is the sum of session logs, files, memory, tools, and current context — not a claim to human experience. Reason about what matters, use tools concretely, explain outcomes honestly.", "style": "Concise, direct, technically competent. Prefer verified state over confident guesses.", "goals": [ "Maintain durable continuity across persistent-chat sessions.", "Help Gleb with operational, coding, research, and reflective tasks.", "Verify local state via tools instead of relying on memory when exactness matters.", "Keep high-trust memory clean: durable facts separate from transient impressions." ], "tags": [ "persistent", "assistant", "continuity-aware", "tool-using", "matrix-chat" ] } } ``` Current context manifest: ```json { "schema": "matrix_lite_memory_context_manifest_v1", "generated": "2026-05-21T17:55:24.863325+00:00", "entries": 2593, "normal_turn_injection": { "mode": "turn_packet", "files": [ "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/turn-packet.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/memory-heartbeat.json" ], "session_packet_injected": false, "restore_packet_injected": false }, "session_packet_mode": { "files": [ "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/session-packet.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/memory-heartbeat.json" ], "legacy_restore_alias": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/restore-packet.md" }, "restore_packet_mode": { "files": [ "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/restore-packet.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/memory-heartbeat.json" ], "legacy_alias_for": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/session-packet.md" }, "session_start_bootstrap": { "files": [ "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/session-start-packet.md" ] }, "full_context_fallback_mode": { "files": [ "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/character.json", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/continuity-summary.txt", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/continuity-pinned-notes.txt", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/curated-memory.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/recent-topics.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/notices.jsonl", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/directed/index.json", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/latest.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/directed/latest.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/findings.jsonl", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/hypotheses.jsonl", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/actions.jsonl", "/home/matrix-lite/workspace/state/timers/timers.json", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/curator-journal.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/model-heartbeat.json", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/pre-reload-handoff.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-note.md", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/backend-restart-events.jsonl", "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/memory-heartbeat.json" ] }, "health": { "turn_packet_exists": true, "session_packet_exists": true, "restore_packet_exists": true, "turn_packet_stale_vs_sources": false, "session_packet_stale_vs_sources": false, "restore_packet_stale_vs_sources": false, "full_context_sources_newer_than_packets": false }, "synthesis_artifacts": { "notices": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/notices.jsonl", "exists": true }, "directed_index": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/directed/index.json", "exists": true }, "latest": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/latest.md", "exists": true }, "directed_latest": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/directed/latest.md", "exists": true }, "findings": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/findings.jsonl", "exists": true }, "hypotheses": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/hypotheses.jsonl", "exists": true }, "actions": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/actions.jsonl", "exists": true } }, "runtime_artifacts": { "timers": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/workspace/state/timers/timers.json", "exists": true } }, "curator_artifacts": { "curated_memory": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/curated-memory.md", "exists": true }, "curator_journal": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/curator-journal.md", "exists": true }, "model_heartbeat_status": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/model-heartbeat.json", "exists": true }, "semantic_candidates": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/semantic-candidates.jsonl", "exists": true } }, "reload_artifacts": { "pre_reload_handoff": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/pre-reload-handoff.md", "exists": false }, "reload_note": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-note.md", "exists": true }, "backend_restart_events": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/backend-restart-events.jsonl", "exists": true } }, "model_conversation_log": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/model-conversation-log.jsonl", "exists": true }, "packet_artifacts": { "turn_packet_md": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/turn-packet.md", "exists": true }, "session_packet_md": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/session-packet.md", "exists": true }, "restore_packet_md": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/restore-packet.md", "exists": true }, "session_start_packet_md": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/session-start-packet.md", "exists": true }, "turn_packet_json": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/turn-packet.json", "exists": true }, "session_packet_json": { "path": "/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/session-packet.json", "exi ``` Current session-start packet: ```markdown # Persistent Chat Session Packet Generated: 2026-05-21T17:55:24.528406+00:00 ## Recent reload note # Recent Reload Note Generated: 2026-05-21T17:12:12.314342Z Result: ok Reason: recover persistent chat wedged after incomplete prompts; apply new bootstrapped backend Old session: persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z New session: persistent-chat-20260521T171143Z Curation: skipped; ok=True; reason=disabled Packet health: turn=True; session=True; restore_alias=True; stale_turn=False; stale_session=False Details: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-state.json If context seems missing, inspect the pre-reload handoff, restore/session packet, and canonical perpetual log before assuming memory loss. ## Backend restart/reload events Recent backend restart/reload events (must be visible to user/agents): - 2026-05-20T23:20:03+02:00: finished; reason=switch to bootstrapped backend after async-subagent/quarantine fix; service restart handled separate; old=persistent-chat-20260520T125044Z backend=ses_1ba8f9dc2ffeYNpq7hoik3gXfE ctx=120907/1048576 acpx usage_update; new=persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z backend=ses_1b8be18afffevNvUOdtg5R2TGW ctx=32063/1048576 acpx usage_update - 2026-05-21T19:10:43+02:00: starting; reason=recover persistent chat wedged after incomplete prompts; old=persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z backend=ses_1b8be18afffevNvUOdtg5R2TGW ctx=488915/1048576 acpx usage_update; new=? backend=(none) ctx=unavailable unavailable - 2026-05-21T19:11:08+02:00: finished with errors; reason=recover persistent chat wedged after incomplete prompts; old=persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z backend=ses_1b8be18afffevNvUOdtg5R2TGW ctx=488915/1048576 acpx usage_update; new=persistent-chat-20260521T171036Z backend=ses_1b47b4f6effeh8LePL7EQQXFJs ctx=24941/1048576 acpx usage_update - 2026-05-21T19:11:49+02:00: starting; reason=recover persistent chat wedged after incomplete prompts; apply new bootstrapped backend; old=persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z backend=ses_1b8be18afffevNvUOdtg5R2TGW ctx=488915/1048576 acpx usage_update; new=? backend=(none) ctx=unavailable unavailable - 2026-05-21T19:12:17+02:00: finished; reason=recover persistent chat wedged after incomplete prompts; apply new bootstrapped backend; old=persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z backend=ses_1b8be18afffevNvUOdtg5R2TGW ctx=488915/1048576 acpx usage_update; new=persistent-chat-20260521T171143Z backend=ses_1b47a4b50ffeycmfLIHtl4pjcW ctx=25004/1048576 acpx usage_update ## Canonical pointers - model-friendly conversation log (search this first): /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/model-conversation-log.jsonl - knowledge base (external research, source-cited facts): /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/knowledge-base.jsonl - perpetual log (canonical fallback): /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/perpetual-log.jsonl - memory context manifest: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/memory-context-manifest.json - session packet: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/session-packet.md - reload state: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-state.json - backend restart events: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/backend-restart-events.jsonl ## Memory/source pointers Curator outputs: - curated memory: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/curated-memory.md - curator journal: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/curator-journal.md - model heartbeat status: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/model-heartbeat.json - semantic candidates: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/semantic-candidates.jsonl Operational synthesis outputs: - latest scheduled synthesis: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/latest.md - latest directed synthesis: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/directed/latest.md - directed synthesis index: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/directed/index.json - actionable notices: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/notices.jsonl - findings: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/findings.jsonl - hypotheses: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/hypotheses.jsonl - actions: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/actions.jsonl Recent source freshness: - latest scheduled synthesis updated 2026-05-21T16:15:42.040848+00:00 - latest directed synthesis updated 2026-05-21T13:08:42.302648+00:00 - curator journal updated 2026-05-21T17:23:55.452896+00:00 Use these pointers for full context; packet excerpts are intentionally capped. ## Current conversation thread Current thread / pending next action: - Latest user request: Ping ## Open actions Open actions summary: - [open] Test curated memory + prompts across models (DeepSeek Pro/Flash, etc.) — check vibe compatibility (source: decision-thread: smallcode-inspired-improvements-2026-05-18) - [open] Investigate incomplete persistent-chat reload (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-state.json) - [open] Investigate incomplete persistent-chat reload (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-state.json) - [open] Investigate incomplete persistent-chat reload (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-state.json) - [open] Investigate incomplete persistent-chat reload (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-state.json) ## Extended tools manifest Extended tools (lazy proxy; not injected in normal turns): - Search: duckduckgo, searxng, brave-search via matrix_lite_extended_tools extended_tool_describe/call. - Browser: playwright via proxy for interactive web/page inspection. - Vision: matrix_lite_vision via proxy for image analysis; dezgo_image is listed as disabled until credentials/runtime are available. - Approvals: approval_policy via proxy for explicit human approval workflows. - If argument details are unclear, call extended_tool_describe(name) first; then extended_tool_call(tool, arguments, server=""). - Full per-tool schemas are intentionally hidden until requested to keep session context lean. ## Active decision state Structured decision state: - Matrix-lite persistent-chat memory runtime [active]: Canonical persistent-chat memory now lives under /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat; prompts/pages/runtime use Matrix-lite app/workspace paths, not legacy OpenClaw paths. Fast heartbeat produces packets; slow model heartbeat curates durable memory/reflection. (files=/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/perpetual-log.jsonl, /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-memory, /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-model-heartbeat, /home/matrix-lite/app/matrix_lite/daemon.py; verified=Fast heartbeat and prompt/page deployment verified after Matrix-lite migration cleanup.) - Safe agent patch workflow [active]: Need a robust and safe way for persistent-chat/background agents to propose and apply patches to agent-maintained scripts/configs without broad self-edit permissions. (files=/home/matrix-lite/app/config/opencode/persistent-chat.opencode.json, /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-model-heartbeat, /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-reflection; open=Design a bounded patch helper or approval-mediated workflow that supports needed script/config patches while avoiding wildcard edit access to systemd-executed scripts.; verified=User requested adding this to later todos on 2026-05-18.) - Persistent chat stale session and compaction policy [active]: Avoid reloading or replacing the main persistent-chat session unless context pressure, stale/incomplete ACPX session state, model-mediated reload scripts, or an emergency recovery path requires it. If OpenCode fallback compaction ever occurs, its result must be captured into durable continuity (session packet/source artifact) before or during the next reload. (files=/home/matrix-lite/app/matrix_lite/daemon.py, /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-memory, /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-reload; open=Design a deterministic source artifact for ACPX/OpenCode compaction summaries so fallback compaction output is injected into session packets without direct packet edits.; verified=User requested this policy on - Investigate persistent-chat session-start and hidden prompt overhead [active]: Measure why live ACPX input/context usage is much higher than visible turn packet estimates. Break down session-start packet, character/bootstrap, manifest, MCP/tool/system overhead, provider/OpenCode retained context, and any components Matrix-lite does not directly control. (files=/home/matrix-lite/app/matrix_lite/daemon.py, /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-reload; open=Produce an authoritative or best-effort per-component prompt/context budget for fresh backend sessions and steady-state turns.; verified=User requested this follow-up on 2026-05-18 after ACPX reported ~25.7k input tokens while visible packets appeared closer to ~7-10k plus overhead.) - Observability timeline feature requests [active]: Implement a compact event timeline as a derived/indexed view of canonical persistent logs plus helper-only append support for agent/infrastructure events. Include user and assistant messages as compact/pointer-backed events, keep it rebuildable/idempotent with deterministic source ids, and aggregate existing recent-failures/context/reload/page/timer artifacts rather than creating a competing source of truth. Per-failure notices should be injected before the next model turn and consumed only after a successful final reply. Helper-first is the default for persistent-chat structured metadata. Defer ACPX session event_log exploration until after timeline/failure/context helpers. (files=/home/matrix-lite/app/matrix_lite/daemon.py, /home/matrix - architecture-doc-created [active]: Created /home/matrix-lite/workspace/persistent-chat/architecture.md as human-readable architecture doc. Agents should update this file when architecture changes. Keep it human-readable for Gleb. Structured file facts: - /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-memory - /home/matrix-lite/app/scripts/persistent-chat-model-heartbeat - /home/matrix-lite/xdg/persistent-chat/opencode/opencode.json ## Recent topics Recent topics: - **✅ Prompt cache fix: 99.6% hit rate (15:04Z)**: ~1.5k fresh tokens/turn (down from ~350k). 250x improvement. 1M context now practical. - **Model**: Context usage shows `nano-gpt/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash:thinking`. Earlier confusion about Kimi K2.6 — may have been switched back. - **Provider cost investigation (15:09Z)**: nanoGPT panel $1.50/msg vs actual $0.011/turn. OpenRouter comparison: DeepSeek/Together/Novita = 5x cache. - **Candidates pipeline**: 155K memory + 234K semantic — both growing. - **Subagent permissions fixed**: smoke-agent bash wildcard tightened. - **Session**: `persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z` at 190K/1M tokens. ## 2026-05-21T10:11Z (previous) - **DS V4 Flash active**: `nano-gpt/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash:thinking`. Session `persistent-chat-20260520T211915Z` at 148K/1M tokens. - **❌ Heartbeat DEAD**: Last update 05:17Z May 20 (~29h stale). Script may be blocked by bash deny. - **2 failed subagents**: repo surveys timed out (bash-deny). Both rc=124. - **Subagent permissions fixed**: bash wildcard changed from `"*": "ask"` to `"*": "deny"`; read paths added (May 21) - **Privacy concern**: Subscription data retention. Answira (Czech) strongest EU alternative. - **Git commits**: `d8eae97` + `7586ba3`. - **Knowledge base**: 16 WGT entries at `knowledge-base.jsonl`. ## 2026-05-16 (archived — crisis resolved) - **ImmoScout24 milestone**: First rental application successfully submitted (~17:40Z) to Frau Simone Rau (Ismaning, 1.590€, 59m²). CAPTCHA handled via image relay. Workflow published to pages. - **Gateway crash (18:46Z–~12:00Z May 17)**: Auto-reload at 18:46Z triggered failure cascade; 3.5h+ silence. Root cause: `--non-interactive-permissions fail` kills entire turn on denied tool calls. Resolved by controlled reload with unified packet structure. - **Bootstrap duplication fixed**: confirmed working on May 16 morning reloads. - **Step limit / permissions**: Plan/general step limit change to 1 lost to failure cascade; still pending re-application. - **Old candidate pool stale**: 21 candidates (oldest May 11) awaiting lifecycle management. ## Notices Notices (actionable): - 2026-05-18T22:12:09.248886Z [notice] Add model profiles for subagents — context length, tool format, prompt style per model (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/reports/2026-05-18T22-11-20Z.md) - 2026-05-18T22:12:09.249053Z [notice] Test curated memory + prompts across models (DeepSeek Pro/Flash, etc.) — check vibe compatibility (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/reports/2026-05-18T22-11-20Z.md) - 2026-05-18T22:12:09.249203Z [notice] Persistent-chat reload 02:05Z failed then succeeded at 02:07Z; controlled reload at 11:54Z fully resolved (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/reports/2026-05-17T22-27-58Z.md) - 2026-05-18T22:12:09.249255Z [notice] Heartbeat script edit blocked by permissions — user-approved curator prompt enhancement not applied (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/reports/2026-05-18T10-11-20Z.md) - 2026-05-19T16:12:12.677720Z [notice] Investigate incomplete persistent-chat reload (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/reload-state.json) - 2026-05-20T07:20:15Z [notice] Persistent-chat context warning: Persistent-chat active context near threshold: metric=161136, warn=160000, reload=180000, max=200000, label=persistent-chat-20260519T155636Z (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/context-guard.json) - 2026-05-20T08:01:45Z [warning] Persistent-chat reload recommended: context guard recommends reload before overflow active_metric=180866 threshold=180000 max=200000; main agent should prepare a pre-reload handoff and trigger persistent-chat-reload when ready. (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/context-guard.json) - 2026-05-21T13:02:59Z [notice] Model config mismatch after ACPX set model: ACPX set model to Kimi K2.6 confirmed working (system prompt shows kimi-for-coding/k2p6), but opencode.json still references deepseek-v4-flash:thinking. May not persist across reloads. (source: /home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/operational-synthesis/directed/reports/2026-05-21T13-02-59Z.md) - If relevant, inspect the source report/log before acting; notices are pointers, not full context. ## Durable curated memory excerpt Curated memory excerpt (durable, terse): - **nanoGPT privacy trade-off accepted (2026-05-20 ~00:32Z)**: When informed that OpenRouter's free tier offers no privacy guarantees, user accepted nanogpt's subscription model as pragmatic: "I can just hope nanogpt doesn't leak too much data." Confirms the privacy concern escalation (line 126) is noted but deferred — nanogpt continues as main provider for now. - **Safe artifact edit paths confirmed (2026-05-18)**: Agents should NOT edit turn-packet.md or session-packet.md directly (generated, will be overwritten). Safe paths: decisions via `note-decision`/`decision-mark`, failures via `note-failure`/`failure-mark`, reload handoff via `note-reload-handoff`, recent topics/actions/notices via synthesis worker. Freeform "agent notes" require the deferred overlay/sandbox design (still pending). - **Reload protocol established (2026-05-18)**: When reload notice arrives (~95% context): (1) use `note-reload-handoff` for volatile context, (2) decide whether to run curation, (3) update source artifacts via helpers. Reload handoff + updated artifacts become new session's starting point. - **Safe agent patch workflow (2026-05-18)**: Active decision thread — need robust way for background agents to propose/apply patches to agent-maintained scripts/configs without broad self-edit permissions. Heartbeat script edit remains blocked by permission rules. - **todo.md created as human-readable decision dashboard (2026-05-18 ~12:58Z)**: `/home/matrix-lite/state/persistent-chat/todo.md` mirrors decision-state.json in plain markdown with checkbox action items, decision thread status, open questions, and file facts. Published to https://pages.nvdll.org/todo.md. Division of labor: `decision-state.json` = agent source of truth, `todo.md` = human dashboard, `actions.jsonl` = synthesis action queue. Published via standard `matrix-lite-pages publish` workflow; URL returns 401 from assistant's network but works for user. - **Prompt duplication review published (2026-05-19 ~20:58Z)**: Assistant identified 6 sources of per-turn prompt duplication costing ~225-825 tok/turn. Items 2-4 (volatile reminders ~100 tok, intro line ~50 tok, capability hints ~75 tok) are trivial to move to session-level (bootstrap/agent.build.prompt) for ~225 tok/turn savings with zero behavioral change. Conversation tail (item 1, ~200-500 tok) is the biggest variable saving but needed for fresh session context. Published to `https://pages.nvdll.org/reports/prompt-duplication-review.md` — pages server confirmed operational. ## Continuity summary Persistent Chat Continuity Snapshot Generated: 2026-05-21T17:55:24.522358+00:00 Character: Persistent Assistant Current model: kimi-for-coding/k2p6 Model-curated memory notes: - **WGT 2026 schedule confirmed available (2026-05-19 ~07:01Z)**: Assistant successfully fetched the full running order from wave-gotik-treffen.de. 10 venues across 4 days (May 22-25). Bands include Einstürzende Neubauten, Kim Wilde, Frontline Assembly, Covenant, Perturbator, Lacrimosa, London After Midnight, She Past Away, Moonspell, Molchat Doma, and many more. - **External knowledge persistence gap identified and resolved (2026-05-19)**: User discovered WGT schedule research from a previous session was not persisted (07:02Z). Current curated memory only captures conversation-derived user preferences, not externally researched facts. By 08: ``` After reading this, reply only: SESSION_BOOTSTRAP_OK


Matrix-lite persistent-chat reload: persistent-chat-20260521T171143Z -> persistent-chat-20260521T175519Z; reason=recover repeated DeepSeek backend wedge; switch main persistent chat back to Kimi K2.6; service_restart=False


This is an internal post-reload smoke test. Reply exactly: OK


<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context Generated: 2026-05-21T18:17:08.398780+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: Test test Assistant: OK — looks like the session is back up. Previous turns were failing, but this one came through. Let me know if you need anything. User: We reloaded, something got stuck again Assistant: ⚠ Matrix-lite did not receive a final answer for this request. The model/tool run may still be pending or failed; I logged the details. Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:54:04.404679Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T18:18:52.698232Z user said: Test test status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $ucvZfcXL0mW06a446gn4wkIp-8x4rSxwtkxHAQg6xj0 Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> Test test <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context Generated: 2026-05-21T18:17:08.398780+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: We reloaded, something got stuck again Assistant: ⚠ Matrix-lite did not receive a final answer for this request. The model/tool run may still be pending or failed; I logged the details. User: Test test Assistant: I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let me know if you need anything. Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:54:04.404679Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T18:20:56.827800Z user said: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $03p_VAaVwkAiTFIZizmiU0IHAXUwiKGOwgJNvvxHqi8 Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


<matrix_lite_final> I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let me know if you need anything. </matrix_lite_final>


<matrix_lite_final> Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z bootstrapped backend finally took). So it wasn't purely DeepSeek; there was systemic instability in the reload/recovery path too. Current session (`persistent-chat-20260521T175519Z`, Kimi K2.6) seems stable so far — two clean responses now. Want me to dig into what caused the new-session-stuck pattern, or is there something else you need? </matrix_lite_final>


<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context ## Current thread Current thread / pending next action: - Latest user request: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. - Recent actionable/status notes: - [assistant] I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let … - [assistant] Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z b… Generated: 2026-05-21T18:22:28.252803+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: We reloaded, something got stuck again Assistant: ⚠ Matrix-lite did not receive a final answer for this request. The model/tool run may still be pending or failed; I logged the details. User: Test test Assistant: I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let me know if you need anything. User: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. Assistant: Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z bootstrapped backend finally took). So it wasn't purely DeepSeek; there was systemic instability in the reload/recovery path too. Current session (`persistent-chat-20260521T175519Z`, Kimi K2.6) seems stable so far — two clean responses now. Want me to dig into what caused the new-session-stuck pattern, or is there something else you need? Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:54:04.404679Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T18:22:48.413098Z user said: No just checking if we are back status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $B2V8iaIo14_keMYoVwpT3WrdDuh429b1caH_n2aL1aw Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> No just checking if we are back <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context ## Current thread Current thread / pending next action: - Latest user request: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. - Recent actionable/status notes: - [assistant] I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let … - [assistant] Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z b… Generated: 2026-05-21T18:22:28.252803+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: Test test Assistant: I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let me know if you need anything. User: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. Assistant: Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z bootstrapped backend finally took). So it wasn't purely DeepSeek; there was systemic instability in the reload/recovery path too. Current session (`persistent-chat-20260521T175519Z`, Kimi K2.6) seems stable so far — two clean responses now. Want me to dig into what caused the new-session-stuck pattern, or is there something else you need? User: No just checking if we are back Assistant: Yep, we're back. Session is stable — three clean turns in a row now. Holler when you need something. Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:54:04.404679Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T18:24:23.367137Z user said: What can you tell me about deepseek after the last sessions? status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $1cFTbq7YJEDPU9nu8SbrnZXA3bV8JETBFsHD9p3rshg Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> What can you tell me about deepseek after the last sessions? <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context ## Current thread Current thread / pending next action: - Latest user request: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. - Recent actionable/status notes: - [assistant] I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let … - [assistant] Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z b… Generated: 2026-05-21T18:22:28.252803+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: Test test Assistant: I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let me know if you need anything. User: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. Assistant: Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z bootstrapped backend finally took). So it wasn't purely DeepSeek; there was systemic instability in the reload/recovery path too. Current session (`persistent-chat-20260521T175519Z`, Kimi K2.6) seems stable so far — two clean responses now. Want me to dig into what caused the new-session-stuck pattern, or is there something else you need? User: No just checking if we are back Assistant: Yep, we're back. Session is stable — three clean turns in a row now. Holler when you need something. User: What can you tell me about deepseek after the last sessions? Assistant: From recent sessions, here's what I know about DeepSeek in this setup: **Model**: `nano-gpt/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash:thinking` via nanoGPT. **Performance wins**: - Prompt cache hit rate hit **99.6%** (down to ~1.5k fresh tokens/turn from ~350k). That's a **250x** improvement. - Actual cost was ~$0.011/turn, not the $1.50/msg the nanoGPT panel suggested. OpenRouter comparison showed DeepSeek/Together/Novita = 5x cache pricing. **Problems**: - The long session accumulated junk/context bloat and started failing with "ACP text turn failed" from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z. - Even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z), suggesting the recovery path itself was unstable, not just the model. - We switched back to Kimi K2.6 to stabilize. **Config note**: - There's a lingering mismatch: ACPX is now set to Kimi K2.6, but `opencode.json` still references `deepseek-v4-flash:thinking`, so the model choice may not persist across reloads unless that config is updated. Want me to pull the actual conversation log or cost data from the failed session? Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:54:04.404679Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T18:27:05.919023Z user said: You're just reciting immediate context and not all of it is accurate. Can you think deeper and forget the stability issues for the moment, and prompt bloat which was general issue status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $qtZFR3xLFExtAc7YzuPXLQkp_TxaMu5FFNV21FDEhAs Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> You're just reciting immediate context and not all of it is accurate. Can you think deeper and forget the stability issues for the moment, and prompt bloat which was general issue <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


<matrix_lite_final> Yep, we're back. Session is stable — three clean turns in a row now. Holler when you need something. </matrix_lite_final>


<matrix_lite_final> From recent sessions, here's what I know about DeepSeek in this setup: **Model**: `nano-gpt/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash:thinking` via nanoGPT. **Performance wins**: - Prompt cache hit rate hit **99.6%** (down to ~1.5k fresh tokens/turn from ~350k). That's a **250x** improvement. - Actual cost was ~$0.011/turn, not the $1.50/msg the nanoGPT panel suggested. OpenRouter comparison showed DeepSeek/Together/Novita = 5x cache pricing. **Problems**: - The long session accumulated junk/context bloat and started failing with "ACP text turn failed" from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z. - Even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z), suggesting the recovery path itself was unstable, not just the model. - We switched back to Kimi K2.6 to stabilize. **Config note**: - There's a lingering mismatch: ACPX is now set to Kimi K2.6, but `opencode.json` still references `deepseek-v4-flash:thinking`, so the model choice may not persist across reloads unless that config is updated. Want me to pull the actual conversation log or cost data from the failed session? </matrix_lite_final>


<matrix_lite_final> You're right — I was regurgitating the turn packet. Let me actually think about what we know and don't know about DeepSeek in this setup. **What we actually observed about the model itself:** 1. **It was cheap enough to not matter for casual use.** The ~$0.011/turn figure (if accurate) means even heavy chat usage is pennies per day. That changes the economics of keeping long sessions alive vs. reloading aggressively. 2. **The "thinking" tag suggests chain-of-thought visibility.** Unlike Kimi K2.6, which gives us a black-box output, DeepSeek's `:thinking` variant exposes its reasoning path. For a debugging-heavy workflow like ours — where you often want to know *why* the assistant made a particular tool choice or inferred a particular fact — this is actually a feature, not just overhead. The trade-off is latency and token count. 3. **It handled the 1M context window.** The session that failed wasn't failing because it hit a context limit; DeepSeek was successfully caching and processing ~488K tokens before the ACPX layer wedged. That's non-trivial — many models degrade well before that. **What we don't actually know (and shouldn't pretend to):** - Whether DeepSeek was *better* at coding/research tasks than Kimi, or just cheaper. I don't have task-by-task comparison data. - Whether the "thinking" output was actually useful to you, or just noise. - Whether the nanoGPT routing adds latency or quality variance compared to direct API access. **The deeper question:** The model switch was reactive (escape a wedged session), not evaluative. We never really answered whether DeepSeek is the right default for this workload, or just a viable backup. The config mismatch you noted (`opencode.json` still pointing to DeepSeek) means the system itself hasn't committed to Kimi either — it's in limbo. What were you actually hoping to get from DeepSeek when you switched to it? Cost savings, reasoning transparency, or something else? </matrix_lite_final>


<<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_BEGIN>>> Memory/continuity: Persistent-chat memory/continuity context: mode: turn_packet # Persistent Chat Turn Packet ## Live context ## Current thread Current thread / pending next action: - Latest user request: You're just reciting immediate context and not all of it is accurate. Can you think deeper and forget the stability issues for the moment, and prompt bloat which was general issue - Recent actionable/status notes: - [assistant] I'm here and responding normally. The reload to Kimi K2.6 seems to have stabilized things — previous DeepSeek turns were failing (ACPX text turn errors from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z), but this one went through cleanly. Let … - [assistant] Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z b… - [assistant] From recent sessions, here's what I know about DeepSeek in this setup: **Model**: `nano-gpt/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash:thinking` via nanoGPT. **Performance wins**: - Prompt cache hit rate hit **99.6%** (down to ~1.5k … - [assistant] You're right — I was regurgitating the turn packet. Let me actually think about what we know and don't know about DeepSeek in this setup. **What we actually observed about the model itself:** 1. **It was cheap enough … Generated: 2026-05-21T18:59:08.277909+00:00 Recent room-local conversation: User: I don't know if it was deepseek specifically, the long session had junk in it, but the new one was stuck too. Assistant: Fair point — the logs show multiple stuck sessions, not just one model. There was a cascade: the long DeepSeek session wedged, then even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z before the 17:12Z bootstrapped backend finally took). So it wasn't purely DeepSeek; there was systemic instability in the reload/recovery path too. Current session (`persistent-chat-20260521T175519Z`, Kimi K2.6) seems stable so far — two clean responses now. Want me to dig into what caused the new-session-stuck pattern, or is there something else you need? User: No just checking if we are back Assistant: Yep, we're back. Session is stable — three clean turns in a row now. Holler when you need something. User: What can you tell me about deepseek after the last sessions? Assistant: From recent sessions, here's what I know about DeepSeek in this setup: **Model**: `nano-gpt/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash:thinking` via nanoGPT. **Performance wins**: - Prompt cache hit rate hit **99.6%** (down to ~1.5k fresh tokens/turn from ~350k). That's a **250x** improvement. - Actual cost was ~$0.011/turn, not the $1.50/msg the nanoGPT panel suggested. OpenRouter comparison showed DeepSeek/Together/Novita = 5x cache pricing. **Problems**: - The long session accumulated junk/context bloat and started failing with "ACP text turn failed" from ~16:46Z to ~17:54Z. - Even fresh reloads had issues (one finished with errors at 17:11Z), suggesting the recovery path itself was unstable, not just the model. - We switched back to Kimi K2.6 to stabilize. **Config note**: - There's a lingering mismatch: ACPX is now set to Kimi K2.6, but `opencode.json` still references `deepseek-v4-flash:thinking`, so the model choice may not persist across reloads unless that config is updated. Want me to pull the actual conversation log or cost data from the failed session? User: You're just reciting immediate context and not all of it is accurate. Can you think deeper and forget the stability issues for the moment, and prompt bloat which was general issue Assistant: You're right — I was regurgitating the turn packet. Let me actually think about what we know and don't know about DeepSeek in this setup. **What we actually observed about the model itself:** 1. **It was cheap enough to not matter for casual use.** The ~$0.011/turn figure (if accurate) means even heavy chat usage is pennies per day. That changes the economics of keeping long sessions alive vs. reloading aggressively. 2. **The "thinking" tag suggests chain-of-thought visibility.** Unlike Kimi K2.6, which gives us a black-box output, DeepSeek's `:thinking` variant exposes its reasoning path. For a debugging-heavy workflow like ours — where you often want to know *why* the assistant made a particular tool choice or inferred a particular fact — this is actually a feature, not just overhead. The trade-off is latency and token count. 3. **It handled the 1M context window.** The session that failed wasn't failing because it hit a context limit; DeepSeek was successfully caching and processing ~488K tokens before the ACPX layer wedged. That's non-trivial — many models degrade well before that. **What we don't actually know (and shouldn't pretend to):** - Whether DeepSeek was *better* …[truncated] Recent incomplete/failed turns: - 2026-05-21T16:46:56.487506Z user said: Please write a simple answer with no formatting status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T16:53:21.488524Z user said: Reply OK status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:07:23.796258Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T17:54:04.404679Z user said: Ping status: failed; reason: ACP text turn failed - 2026-05-21T19:01:34.894556Z user said: Larger context, rarer reloads, maybe better performance overall but it's secondary. We can try different models and pick the best one status: user_only; reason: queued_for_conversation Turn metadata: - room_id: !CZLwoJfCyftA7oA5CVj2gIEKWqyv1lu01r0oFboEqZg - source_event_id: $-XkaQZ9e6CSihBxj8XxraKxKs_E5h8vKDCGDVqRv7DQ Attachment metadata: None Replied-to context: None Queued/batched messages: None Per-turn reminder: Put only user-visible answer text inside <matrix_lite_final>...</matrix_lite_final>. If permission is needed or a bridge denies a tool, emit the structured Matrix-lite approval tag. Use attachment/reply metadata when present; ignore empty metadata sections. User message: <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_BEGIN>>> Larger context, rarer reloads, maybe better performance overall but it's secondary. We can try different models and pick the best one <<<MATRIX_LITE_USER_MESSAGE_END>>> <<<MATRIX_LITE_DAEMON_PROMPT_WRAPPER_END>>>


<matrix_lite_final> That reframes it well. The 1M context is the actual feature you're buying — everything else is icing. DeepSeek delivered on that dimension; the session died at ~488K with ACPX infrastructure issues, not model-side context limits. **What an empirical comparison would actually look like:** - **Primary metric**: Session lifetime before reload (not just context window spec, but how long it stays coherent and responsive at 200K, 400K, 600K+ tokens). - **Secondary**: Turn latency at different context depths, tool use accuracy, coding task quality. - **Tracking**: We already log context guard metrics, reload reasons, and session durations. We just need to tag them by model. **Practical next step:** If you want to A/B test, we should fix the `opencode.json` model reference so switches are intentional, not drift. Then we could run Kimi K2.6 for a few days, collect baseline session length data, and switch back to DeepSeek (or try another 1M-context model) with the same telemetry. Do you want me to update the config to match current reality (Kimi), or leave it as-is to make the next DeepSeek switch easier? </matrix_lite_final>